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Liselle · Guru

Kyra, in progress

Friki Fimo · Senior Member

Very good! I can see already she's going to be a beautiful doll! :)

Liselle · Guru

Did some work today. Maybe like 4 layers? I don't know. I lost count.

Friki Fimo · Senior Member

Thanks for sharing! So far, so good! Can't wait to see her done!

What mohair do you plan to use? I've got me a nice black curly premium mohair, once I make my first biracial, I'll root it with that one. It will be Olive by Jessica Schenk! :)

Liselle · Guru

I have some brownish mohair, still on the hide, that Pat sent to me. It'll have to be sparsely rooted, since there is not a lot of it, but it's all I've got. I just don't have the $$ to order any more right now.

And thanks!

Dee · Guru

Looking good nice coloring I can"t wait to see her finished, I love that sculpt I love her juicy lips lol I made her a boy with blond hair, when I start reborning again I gonna make an AA girl of the sculpt.

Liselle · Guru

Dee, I think it was the lips for me too on this one.

I have a question for you, because I know you use the ADP as well. I'm having a heck of a time getting the veins and creasing to show up. I can't do the veins because I can't see where I put them once it dries....and the creases just don't want to show up at all. Any suggestions, before I just use the GHSP for those areas?

Dee · Guru

Hi Kim, I had the same problem with the veins so I used a blue water color pencil I used it dry then use a damp wedge sponge to dab to smooth it out, as for the creases if they didn't show I just darkened the paint, that usually works for me, if that does'nt work for you I would probably use a primer. Good luck let me know how it goes if you try it.

Liselle · Guru

Just finished creases using AR Eyebrows. I'm done for now. Might heat set them later, but that was exhausting work. LOL

-- Edited by Liselle on Thursday 2nd of February 2012 08:58:58 PM

Buffington · Guru

Hey! She's coming along quite nicely!

Liselle · Guru

I still have to heat set the AR Eyebrow in the creases, and probably another layer or 10 (LOL) since she's not quite as dark as I would like.

But thanks!

Buffington · Guru

Mine is still in the box I got her in. Kudos for starting her. I think she is going to be lovely. I might do mine as a biracial little boy. We'll see what the sculpt wants to be. Won't be for a whle yet though. Keep up the good work!

Friki Fimo · Senior Member

I'm also thinking of starting my first biracial doll. I have an Olive by J. Schenk, got soooo lucky on an ebay auction :D I've got to be extra careful, though, since she's so limited and all :) I think she'll be perfect for biracial, she reminds me a lot of my little 5 year old friend when she was a baby.

Liselle · Guru

Been painting today. OMG. This baby is taking forever to darken up. I have lost count of how many layers it has.

I'm done for now. Hands hurt and I'm just plain tired of painting. Maybe I need to learn a new method. :P

Liselle · Guru

I want eyes like this for her, but I'm not paying nearly $20 for it. Anyone have 22mm eyes like this?

Liselle · Guru

Just about done, I think. At least on the painting....

Liselle · Guru

Question on veining:

HOW do you get them to show up?? I paint them, they dry, and I can't see where I painted. So I repeat, and same thing. Maybe since I've got layers of paint on now, it will show up.

Also, are the veins as evident on biracial babies as they are on Caucasian? Are they still as blue? Or a darker color?

Next question. Pat, the hair you sent me (pic included) in case you don't recall, do you think that will cover all of Kyra's head? Or should I mix it with the blondish-brown I have here that I used on David Michael? (Never mind....I think I just answered my question on that one. I'll be mixing it. LOL But how do I get it off the hide? Do I just take scissors to it, and short cut it?

Ok, done now with questions. LOL

(this is showing off the hair)

(this is the hair on the hide)

Dee · Guru

I can't wait to see her finished, about the veining on a bi racial baby or light "skinned" AA baby you can see the veins but on a darker AA baby they are barely seen, maybe you should use darker vein coloring, I can't see the veins on the baby in my avatar I painted them but I can't see them.

-- Edited by Dee on Friday 9th of March 2012 01:30:51 AM

-- Edited by Dee on Friday 9th of March 2012 01:33:47 AM

Liselle · Guru

She's fairly light as you can see....I may try some veining again tomorrow. Maybe this time with GHSP. Anyone else have any answers for my questions?

Thanks Dee!! I know you use ADP, so I definitely appreciate your input!!

sara zata · Guru

I haven't tried air dried paints, got so used to GHSP that I wouldn't use anything else. It would be nice Liselle if you could right on a piece of paper the color of the layers you are doing. will see if I can add a pic of one of mine. I did as a swap, I wanted to keep it, the on I got back even though it was my kit jjust didn't grow on me. JIMHO I think the brows could be a bit long but they are a bit hard to see, or it is my glasses. Had my eyes tested today and am getting new ones in about 2 weeks. XXXXX June

sara zata · Guru

This is the one I did, I realy was in love with here and it shows the layers and color of paint.

Liselle · Guru

Very nice, June!

If I could recall the colors I used, I would write it down. My paints are from BnB, so they're no longer available, and I just kind of start mixing them until I get a color I like. I try to make enough only for that batch, and it's enough to just cover the body parts that I need for that layer. If I'm lucky, I get 2 layers out of the mix.

My camera isn't capturing the true color of it...I wish it would.

Liselle · Guru

Going to use this color for her.

Dee · Guru

You are very welcome.

Dee · Guru

June she is sooo cute!

Dee · Guru

Kim I do the same when mixing ADP.

Liselle · Guru

Dee, HELP!!! I was putting eyes in and she got scratched up by my nails! WHY is the paint coming off?? I know you use the ADP as well, have you ever had this problem? And how do I fix it?

Dee · Guru

Oh no! I did that on the arm of one of mine before I sealed it, but I did'nt want to try to get the same color again so I made it a scratch with a light red color then sealed it, I would try to get the color as close as possible and carefully sponge paint on the area then reseal it I hope this helps.

-- Edited by Dee on Tuesday 13th of March 2012 05:16:40 AM

-- Edited by Dee on Tuesday 13th of March 2012 05:26:28 AM

Liselle · Guru

Ok. Thanks!! There are several scratches, so I'm going to try to color match it. Being that this is BnB paints, what am I supposed to seal it with? I'm not even sure I have it.

Dee · Guru

I always used the sealer from BnB, but will use delta cream coat sealer when I make another baby.

Liselle · Guru

These are the most obvious ones. Still working on color matching.

This one, I'm not so much worried about because I know it will be covered up under hair.

Next question, Dee. Which of these should I use, and what's the difference?

Dee · Guru

I used the ultra matte, I have'nt used the other, I can't wait to see her finished I love the coloring and the eyes, hurry and finish her lol.

-- Edited by Dee on Saturday 17th of March 2012 04:50:18 AM

Liselle · Guru

I'm trying!! :) I can't work much on her this weekend, as my youngest son is with me, AND I'm working....can't spend ALL my time in my hidey-hole! LOL

So how do I use this Ultra Matte? Sponge it on, brush it on, what?

Dee · Guru

Lol, I mixed it with a little thinner then used a makeup wedge.

Liselle · Guru

Ok, great! Glad you said use thinner. That was going to be my next question. Thanks!!

I think I'm going to go ahead and seal her, I've gone as far as I want to on her coloring. I've attempted veins a couple of times, and a few of them are visible, but I'm not going to paint any more on her.

Rooting will start once she's matted. LOL

Dee · Guru

you are welcome.

Liselle · Guru

Ok, this next rant is for those of you who use air dry paints (ADP)

I am getting severely ticked off because the ADP keeps scratching off. I'm testing it in inconspicuous places, and even after 2 coats of thinned ultra matte (from the now out of business Bloomers N Bows) it is STILL easily scratched off. What is going on??

How long do I have to wait for the paint to "cure"? And how many coats of Ultra Matte should I put on there??

Someone please help before I have to strip the whole thing and start over.

Could this be an issue because I didn't wash the kit beforehand? It's BB's own Kyra, and I see no evidence of oiliness or anything, but I'm grasping at straws here. I'm so ticked.

Dee · Guru

I'm sorry you are having problems, confuse it could be many things, I always wash my babies and I use 2 coats of sealer but I don't seal it until it dries for a few days, could be that the paint is old, I had some paints left from B n B I threw it away because it's been a good while since I used them, I hope you don't have to strip her I love her coloring, good luck.

Liselle · Guru

If I strip her, I'll us GHSP this time.

How would I know if the paint is too old to use? They're the paints I got when I got David Michael, and I know that's been a couple of years.

Dee · Guru

I don't know, we don't know how long Elena had then before we got them I do know some of mine dried up so I just figured they were old and threw them all away because I have had then a couple years.

Liselle · Guru

Ok, well mine aren't dried up. So maybe they're still good. But stripping does look like it might be the route I'm going.

I'm not going to do anything for a while...my clinicals start next week and I'll be too busy to do anything.

I'll keep you posted though!

Dee · Guru

ok, good luck with clinicals, you are studying phlebotomy right? thats what my sister does, she's been doing that for years.

Liselle · Guru

Yeah, phlebotomy. I've been so nervous about it this past week that I've literally almost made myself sick. I'm talking full blown nausea, and not sleeping sick. Can't wait till Monday night, when I will have met the people I'll be working with and have a couple of sticks under my belt and I won't be as nervous.

Thanks, Dee!!

Dee · Guru

You are welcome, I'm sure you will be fine, let me know how is goes.

Liselle · Guru

Real quick, before I head out the door.

Clinicals are going....lol. It's not bad, I'm not nervous anymore, just trying to pick up on things.

I haven't seen Kyra in nearly a week, but when I go home tomorrow to grab a few things, I'll check her out.

Will post more soon, but got to get off the computer now and get out the door! LOL

Dee · Guru

Hang in there you will do fine, poor Kyra is all alone lol.

Liselle · Guru

Nah, the BF is there with her....probably thinking...creepy little doll head. LOL

Dee · Guru

ok now I feel better LOL

Liselle · Guru

Hey, guys, just giving you an update.

I am doing my clinical internship right now, and I'm not able to work on Kyra. I checked last week when I was at the house for a while and I was still able to scratch the paint off, even after a couple of coats of Ultra Matte. But I haven't had the time to work on her for a few weeks.

I have begun stripping her color. I wish I didn't have to, but I don't know what else to do. I really liked her color, but I just don't see any other options. I wasn't able to finish stripping her, but clinicals are almost over, and hopefully I can get back to her soon.

Dee · Guru

Hi Kim, sorry that you have to start over but we do what we have to to make are babies look their best, I hope clinicals are going well.