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Date: Jun 14, 2009

Glazing Gel

Buffington · Guru

Oh my! That is really strange. I have never heard of that before. No, it shouldn't be because of the cooler temp in your home. I'm not sure so let me see who I can ask.

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

Yes, I had the same problem with the glazing gel. I have painted a doll and put some glazing gel in the eye crease to create a wet look. O my... two days later (after I have rooted the lashes) it was all white and like powder. I used the same jar before on other dolls and there was no problem.

I thought it was because I used the heat gun to set the glaze. Normally when I put it in the oven there is no problem. Guess its something to do with the heat.

Date: Jun 15, 2009

Yes i don't know why it happened! So strange. I did such a gorgeous job on her and spend so many hours, and I am so disappointed.
If you ahve any ideas on how I could fix her i would greatly appreciate it!
Such a shame!
Thank-you

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

I wish I knew how to fix it.

Sorry, maybe some else will come on the forum with a solution. I do'nt think it is the glaze ... maybe we have done something wrong. All I can think of in my case, is the temp or maybe the thinners. I am not sure confuse

Tina W. · Guru

I don't use the gel. I think I may have once and didn't care for how it turned out. I personally didn't see where it did anything. Hope things turn out for you.

Buffington · Guru

Did any of you mix any thinner with the glazing gel or not?

aweebitofheaven · Member

no i havnt heard of that before either ... i do hope you can get it fixed ... i just use the BB air dry gloss for nails ect...

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

Yes Pat I dipped the brush in thinners. I did not mix in the jar.

cowgirl · Veteran Member

I had a problem with it once. I had a problem on the lips. It looked flakey. I have found that you don't mix the glazing gel with any kind of other medium or paint. And you have to do thin layers. I got some I would say was bad, I don't know for sure. I bought more, and it's not happened again. Any of the mentioned could have caused it. Can you take the limbs off and take the glazing gel off and repaint? There are some products that will take off the paint and gel. One I mentioned and was really poo-poo'd. As some thought it was harmful. But, there are a varity of things that you can use to strip. Sound like some work. But, it's better than scrapping the whole doll. This is just MHO.
Best of luck.
Brenda

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

You are right Brenda and thanks for the advice.

Buffington · Guru

With the glazing gel is it VERY important that you do not mix any thinners with it. And it goes on in a VERY thin layer. It's like Brenda said, don't mix it with anything. That could be your problem.

Also if it's not baked long enough. Although I have used the heat gun on nails with the gel and had no problem. But then again I used it straight from the container after stirring it in there. Always stir your Genesis paints before using them. It makes a nice creamy consistency and you seem to use less paint that way.

You could use some acetone on a cotton tip and just for the nails carefully. Then repaint and glaze (if you want this time) and bake. I paint the nails how I want them, bake, then apply the glazing gel and before that is baked I apply my flesh 08 for the nail tips, then bake. I find that if I apply the gel then the 08 it makes the 08 go on smoother and looks real nice.

Hope this helps :)

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

Thanks for the advice Pat. I have never tried to put first the glaze, paint the tips and then bake. This is a new to me and I am going to try it out. Thank you for sharing.

Date: Jun 19, 2009

I didn't mix the glazing gel with any thinners. I put a few layers on the nails but thin layers and then baked them for the required time. But maybe i did something wrong that i don't remember.
I might use some acetone to take it off and re-do them as i certainly can't leave her like that.

Thank-you everyone for your help! its much appreciated.
:)

Date: Jun 21, 2009

Just an update. I was actually able to remove the old glazing gel with the acetone - it came right off and I was lucky enough that the original paintwork on the nails stayed on!
I fixed the glazing gel, added a little more to the tips of the nails as the acetone removed some of the white tips, and finished it off. It looks good again!

Thanks so much for your help. Hopefully it won't happen again, but now at least i know what to do if it does.

Thank-you again!!!

Buffington · Guru

Glad it all worked out for you. Two things:
1. For those of you who are using white for the nail tips... use flesh 08 instead. Babies don't have "white" nail tips, they're more of a fleshy color. People are getting wise to the white nail tip thing and it really does make the nail stand out like a manicure instead of looking quite natural.
2. You don't want to add more than 1 very thin layer of glazing gel. One is really all you need since Genesis doesn't "need" to be sealed anyway (according to them).

Hope this helps! :)

ronelhamaty · Senior Member

Yes I agree with the white tips. I also use flesh 08. I don't put glaze on the nails. I use the premix lip color from Secrist and apply a very thin layer on the nailbed. It has its own gloss in it.

Date: Nov 15, 2009

Take a toothpick and swirl some cotton on the tip (like a q tip) and dip it in acetone. Very carefully rub the nail area until all paint and glaze are removed. Now you have a clean slate and can re-do the nails. You'll have to heat them with a heat gun (or maybe a very hot hair blower) Be careful not to get acetone on any other area of the skin.

Play Days Dolls · Guru

Thank you for the tip on removing the fingernail paint!

I just wanted to clarify the point about the heat / drying gun vs. a hot hair blower....
If you use a product that must be heated to cure, a hot hair blower will not set the paint as it does not get hot enough to be effective. A heat (drying) gun must be used if not heated in the oven.

Per the Secrist website:
"With the Drying Gun you can do spot touch-ups on the go where you only need to add a little more paint. What do you do if your doll is already rooted and eyelashed but you need to touch up the paint? That's where the Drying Gun comes in handy. You can focus the Drying Gun just where you want it to go without over baking the areas around it."

This product is available through Secrist or a Secrist dealer (like Pat or me). Check it out at http://www.secristdolls.com/inc/sdetail/5913