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Hi All, 
  I am just about finished with my two Kendall dolls, but I have a problem.  I used the external purple wash method, but now I have bruising.   HELP!!!!!  Basically, it's between the eyes.  I put a small bit on the back of the head, which could also be a problem, to appear more like a newborn with that thinning spot on the back of the head where they would move their heads.  I hope I'm making sense here.  It doesn't seem like I am.hmmhmmhmm
   I need HELP!!  I read some of the posts, but couldn't find an answer.  Maybe I didn't look in the right places.
  I would greatly appreciate the help.

   You all are great!!!smilesmile  Thanks,  Tami K.

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Could you post a picture in the Artist Showcase so we could see? I'm not exactly sure what bruising is, but I know that I've seen lots of babies (including my own) with very prominent bluish spots between their eyes, right at the bridge of the nose.

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Liselle,
  It is alot there in between the eyes.  I think way too much there.  It really looks bruised instead of the way a newborn baby would look.  I will try to post a picture as soon as I can find the time.

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Tami

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What type of paints are you using? If it's the GHS, you can try a bit of thinner inside where the bruising is to try and remove some of the paint.

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There are a few topics in the forum on the internal wash pros and cons and some alternatives other artist use just search "internal wash" a bunch will pop up =)

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Hi,
  I did use Genisis Heat Set paints, love them!!!!  And the doll is almost done.  It isn't internal wash, I used the external method.  I have tried to layer some other paints on, but of course not knowing which would work, I haven't succeeded.  Maybe I am using the wrong colors.

Tami

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Hmmm if you have a colorwheel handy try and match up the color you need to correct and look on the opposite side for it's neutralizing color.


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Tina is right, color correcting is the step you need. there are many posts on color correcting if you use search. There is much more detailed information that we can list here.

Also, for those who don't know:
Bruising is actually where the old acrylic paints and dyes were used and it actually penetrated the vinyl and became like a real bruise, spreading and infiltrating the vinyl. That was not usually possible to remove or correct.

What Tami is referring to is that she put too much or too intense a blue coloring in certain places on her doll when painting and it looks like the doll has a bruise. not the same thing at all. It should be easily taken care of with one of the forum posts you will find using "search".

Hope this helps

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Thanks so much for explaining bruising.  The tools of the trade have really evolved in a relatively short period of time, and bruising is hardly an issue since the advent of the heat set paints.  I've seen the most bruising in instances where dye was used as an "internal wash."  Aren't we lucky we don't have to worry too much about bruising these days!

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You're welcome LInda.
One thing I did forget to mention with my years of experimenting with dyes and the Secrist/AV vinly is that:

1. i never could get the inside of the vinyl to take the dye, so mine was always on the outside of the parts.

2. If you dipped it too many times in the dye, you got strange undertones of color.

3. The only time I got bruising (I finally figured out) was when the parts even remotely touched the bowl I was dying them in. For example: 1 head I was doing was too tall for the bowl. In order to get the head dyed evenly, I pushed the head down so the crown was on the bottom of the glass bowl. About 2 days later, I had a bruised ring on the crown of the head. *lightbulb goes on here*!!! Hmmm... ya

The thing about bruising like that is that no matter how you cover it up with paints, it will always, eventually come back. May even take a few years!

I do still have quite a few kits that are "pre-washed" so to speak and if I don't sell them, I'll reborn them. But I have had them for about 2-3 years or more. I still check them and no bruising (thank goodness). If they were bruised, I'd just use them for test parts.

Hope this helps more. :)

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Some of the artists still recommend dyeing when making ethnic dolls.  I can't remember where I saw this but the instruction concerned what color dye would be used for various ethnicities.  

In your experience/opinion, would you still see bruising if you dyed the doll and then painted it  to be American Indian, or Asian, or AA?

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In my experience/opinion... yes, any time you use a dye or acrylics you can experience bruising. It doesn't matter what color you would use, it can happen with any color. And sometimes you won't see it for months or maybe a year or more down the road.

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That's what I thought...  Thanks, Pat.

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You're welcome Linda :)

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