dolly,there are also air dry paints--bloomers and bows carrys them--earlier dolls were done with acrlyics and oil paints.some people made use of cream stencile paints. i don't think the medium matters as long as you get the look that works for you. i still dye some of my rescue babies befor i paint ,it's all personal taste. sage
-- Edited by sage brush nursery on Saturday 6th of March 2010 11:33:55 PM
I have heard that the air-dry paints are ok. Some say no as they either soak in or fade away with time. I haven't used mine yet. I got them through BB (not BnB, different sites). Acrylics and dyes were causing bruising so most people quit that. Some still use the old stencil paints. And you have to be careful with the oils if there is any cadmium in them.
Most people use the Genesis (in whatever form they come as each doll supply co has their own mix usually) because they are like oil and acrylic both without the drawbacks of each. They are also permanent and non-toxic (acording to the manufacturer).
Some used to use people makeup and lipsticks but they are usually petroleum products and can cause deterioration of the doll kits.
I have many kits that I did the wash with Rit dye and I have had no bruising (except on 1 head where it touched the bottom of the dye bowl). But I do use the Genesis to paint them, just no internal perwinkle wash (as I have already done the bluish undertone wash).
Yes that was helpful, i also found paint called LDC paint, it is also air dry,i guess the reborn doll makers in germany use it. But also wondering if regular acrylic paints that you would use to paint portraits could also be used to reborn doll's,or is that it would take forever to dry ?
In my experience, all acrylic paints are fast drying. Both the major German companies have developed a lines of acrylic paints that are suited to painting vinyl doll kits. I believe they have something called a retarder that slows down the drying when needed.
Prior to the development of heat set paints, some artists used oils. Oils, unfortunately, can take a long time to dry which slowed down the production of the doll considerably.
Heat set type paints like Genesis seem to combine the best qualities of both oils and acrylics. Before the paints are cured, clean up can be done with detergent and water like acrylics. After they are heated, they are permanent like oil paints and can only be removed with substances like acetone or the cleaners that the German companies carry.
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... i also found paint called LDC paint, it is also air dry,i guess the reborn doll makers in germany use it. But also wondering if regular acrylic paints that you would use to paint portraits could also be used to reborn doll's,or is that it would take forever to dry ?
Yes, the LDC paints are an air-dry paint and they are offered by DD, which one of my preferred companies of German-made vinyl, non-toxic.
The "acrylic" paints you speak of for portraits would be the JoSonya (sp?), etc. Ruth Annette from SR has used those and her babies turned out lovely. And there are other paints she has used but that information is on the SR site and it costs to be a member. As a member you are sworn to secrecy about anything on the furum.
As far as other acrylics you buy at a craft-type store, nope, I wouldn't go there, not on my babies. Those paints have been known to cause bruising (like the Rit dye baths). And they are not usually permanent.