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Ovens!!!!!!

Poisonivy14 · Senior Member

i just use my kitchen oven, i set it on 265 using an oven temermomiter (don't know if i spelled that right!) and i bake for 8 mins. i hope i could help you, i've never herd of anyone using a turkey roaster, maybe someone else on here can help. smile

Buffington · Guru

Turkey roaster??? Not to my knowledge hun!
First... if you are baking any vinyl, vinyl/silicone mix, etc in your home oven you can be taking a chance with your health. The only vinyl I know of that's safe to bake in your home oven is the Secrist vinyl made in the USA. Non-toxic! Other vinyls or mixes do not say they are non-toxic and if they have any silicone in them they are NOT safe in our ovens at home. I do personally bake the kits in my oven from Germany (like the ones on DD) but others, especially the ones with silicone are toxic.
I use a countertop oven, there are a few posts in our forum about them and also links to the piccies of them. I always bake those non-Secrist kits outdoors, not in my home. And I don't use that countertop oven for any food at all as the toxins from the fumes stay in the oven, even with cleaning.
Hope this helps. Search out topics about the ovens in other threads and topics. :)

jburle · Senior Member

what should the oven temperture be when placing the head and limbs in the oven? I saw that Ivy said 265 degrees. and for 8 mins.

and my second question is which is better a oven to put the baby parts in electric oven or gas oven?

sara zata · Guru

I bought a two top burner oven, Cook well brand from Homeart in Aust.Cost $129. Only cant comment on it as it has been sitting on the bench in the laundry, sice May. LOL. That has been the last baby I have made. Time is too stressful at the moment. I only have about 5 reborn kits at the minute, but have all my porcelaine molds to clean and sort out and put on shelves, so that is going to keep me busy for awile. XXXXX June.

mkhammy1 · Senior Member

I just bought a countertop oven I thought would work because it said it was digital. Figured I could set the temp at 265 just like my digital oven at home. But it only allow you to set temp in 25 degree increments, so I either get to choose 250 degrees or 275 degrees. Anyone have any suggestions as to how I could still use this? Hugs, Melinda

Buffington · Guru

Jodie... yes, 265 ferenheit for 8 minutes is what is used on the heat-set paints. Otherwise they won't cure properly. When you do the internal wash it's 10 minutes for that only, the rest of them it's 8. Always use an oven thermometer to be exact in baking.

Melinda... that's so weird that it's in 25 degrees increments! Well in that case, I'd say better to be over a little than under, still go the 8 minutes but watch them carefully. At 250 the paints will not cure properly, they need at least 265. Hmmmmm... I still say that's silly! 25 degrees at a time :o What kind of oven is it? Can you put a link to it on here so I can check it out?

Play Days Dolls · Guru

I have to research this. I have heard of people using a turkey roaster, but really haven't read any other details. I'm not even sure I would know a turkey roaster if I met one.

Play Days Dolls · Guru

I do not use a separate oven, but that is my personal decision after considering any risks to health. It is my understanding that the phalate (not sure of the spelling) that used to be in vinyl may be toxic under certain conditions. Therefore, I bake only those kits from Secrist (non-toxic) or the ones that are specifically advertized as phalate free. This includes many kits made in Germany, those from BB, and kits from others who certify the kits are free of phalate. RDK says their kits should not be baked in an oven so I do not use them.

I should also say I do not use my oven for doll making regularly during the year. I try not to use the oven for much of anything here during the summer. This is Phoenix where temps can range from 108-117 degrees Fahre3nheit June - August. I also don't like paying for the extra electricity during peak hours. During the rest of the year, I use the oven for doll making classes usually a couple days a month. I also try to make a couple dolls every 6 weeks or so, but try to make two at a time to make best use of the oven since I am paying for the electricity anyway.

I have never felt sensitivity to the vinyl, but there are some people who are apparently affected by the fumes/odor if one exists. Each person must make their own personal decision about what oven to use to heat the vinyl.

Poisonivy14 · Senior Member

Buffington wrote:

Turkey roaster??? Not to my knowledge hun!
First... if you are baking any vinyl, vinyl/silicone mix, etc in your home oven you can be taking a chance with your health. The only vinyl I know of that's safe to bake in your home oven is the Secrist vinyl made in the USA. Non-toxic! Other vinyls or mixes do not say they are non-toxic and if they have any silicone in them they are NOT safe in our ovens at home. I do personally bake the kits in my oven from Germany (like the ones on DD) but others, especially the ones with silicone are toxic.
I use a countertop oven, there are a few posts in our forum about them and also links to the piccies of them. I always bake those non-Secrist kits outdoors, not in my home. And I don't use that countertop oven for any food at all as the toxins from the fumes stay in the oven, even with cleaning.
Hope this helps. Search out topics about the ovens in other threads and topics. :)

Are the stephanie sullivan kits safe for baking at home? this is a dumb question, but everytime i make a kit i always try to do some kind of challenge, and this time it's a new artist. i just wanted to know so i don't start a fire or cause a natural disaster, knowing my luck!

-- Edited by Poisonivy14 on Monday 14th of September 2009 11:43:56 PM

jburle · Senior Member

thank you Buffington for the refresher on the oven temp.

mkhammy1 · Senior Member

Pat, I'll try to find the link. I think I have it at work. Thanks for the info! I have a kit that I didn't pay a whole lot for, and maybe I'll try that first. Hugs, Melinda

Buffington · Guru

Linda, it's not just the phlatalates (sp?, hard word lol), it's the silicone, PVC's, and other stuff that can be toxic when baked. Silicone is always toxic when baked as far as dolls or kits goes. Nasty stuff. But I agree, it's an individual choice, and one I choose not to make. :)

Ivy, go to Stephanies website and ask her about her kits. She's the one that would know about her stuff. :) I'm not sure and it's always best to ask the person who had them made.

Jodie, you're welcome :)

Thanks Melinda :) Also one thing about Genesis... They told me that their paint is not compatable with plastic! So if you have a plastic doll, I wouldn't recommend it.

sara zata · Guru

Talking about Silicone, Sam has a Sleep machine and after using it for a few months his face started breaking out with a dry scaly rash, it seems he's allergic to Silcone, so if it can do that to your skin, I do wonder what it can do inside if you bake it in a normal oven. Will see if I can post pic, just so people can see the damage, I will put it in this section Pat, but I know if you don't want it here you know how to change it. XXXXXX June

Buffington · Guru

June hun, just post links ok? :)

jburle · Senior Member

I am soooo Upset...... I started my baby zoe I did the internal wash, and the viens. I put it in for the temputer that it calls for 265degrees for 10 mins. for the internal wash then ( watched the head and limbs) but it kind of started to melt on top of the head. so I took it out and it cured good. But then I had to work on the melted spot it didn't melt through (NO Holes). So I decided to do the veins and decided that I would put it in cause I was done for the night.. and I was watching it again so it wouldn't do the divit melt thing. And I look away for not even 1 min. and I had a second divit but didn't make a hole. So I take it out and I worked on the second divit and I was successful in getting it out.

I have two ovens one is a george forman oven it sits on top of the counter. which it is Electric. and my other one is a gas oven standard size.

Could my electric oven be to hot and would it be safer to to use my gas oven instead? Please help me I am so disappointed and that I feel that my electric is to hot and I am afraid that if I put it in the gas it will do the same thing...

sara zata · Guru

You may need to buy an oven thermometor, so you know the temp is correct. Sometimes they can be out a little and you may need to turn temp up or down a fraction. XXXX June.

Buffington · Guru

ALWAYS use an oven thermometer! My friend purchased a brand new electric oven for her kitchen and it was off on the temp. So just because it's brand new even doesn't mean it is correct for temp. I think she called the company to have it calibrated.

Countertop ovens are nortorious for being off on the temps. If you are using the Secrist/AVDW vinyl made in the USA then it will be fine to bake in your home oven. Otherwise bake in the other one if it's not. I would never bake any kits other than Secrist/AVDW in my home oven (except the ones from Germany as their safety standards are higher than ours here).
I'm sure your oven temp was actually way too hot hun, either that or it might be one of the ones with the 3rd set of heating coils or it was on convection. Convection makes things hotter because it circulates the hot air inside the oven to "cook foods faster".

jburle · Senior Member

YOU Guys are such a life saver!!!

Thank you Buffington... I did but maybe my oven ther. is off too.. I will get a new one. My countertop oven is a normal regular electric oven not one of those fancy ovens that are convection. I only use it to warm up meals from the night before in it.

I am having lots of fun working on my moms baby... Thanks again

I will be on here probably alot. Jodie smile

Buffington · Guru

Glad we could help!
One thing too... I noticed that if I took my heads out of the oven hot and put them on the tea towel, they started to go in, meaning the vinyl would sink is spots and get divots while they were cooling. What I decided is that the bottom of the neck flange was sealing the heat into the head. Like when making jam, you put the lids on hot and then when they cool they pop down and seal the jam in (for those of you who make jams and stuff). So I just made sure I had 2 tea towels under the hot parts while they were cooling. I always stand the heads on the neck instead of laying them down (personal preference).

Glad you're having fun with the newborning, we do too! Post a few links in her or post your pics in the artists showcase