I have read/seen of reborners putting a coat of Aleene's Paper Glaze on eyes. Should this be done on all eyes (acrylic and glass)? I assume this would be done before the eyes are put in? Has anyone had any problems with this product flaking or discoloring?
Speaking of eyes, should they be inserted after all painting is completed? So far the only open eyed dolls I have done have been Secrist and they inserted the eyes for me. I just ordered a non-Secrist open-eyed kit so I will be on my own here.
If it were me, I would put the eyes in after all painting. As for the paper glaze, I've used it on some of the eyes, I think they were acrylic, and very much liked the effect. I haven't been doing this long enough to know whether it flakes or not. Someone else who's been doing this longer will be able to give you more info. Hope this helps! Melinda
I insert the eyes after I am finished painting. I use paper glaze or some other type of gloss glaze on the eyes to create the wet effect. You do not have to use it all. It is all in the prefence of the Artist. You apply the glaze after the eyes are inserted. Which means you have to be very careful not to get it on other parts of the head. (yep have done that too lol) Mostly I use it because it helps me apply the eyelashes (which I always fight with lol) Make sure to apply with a clean brush paint on in one direction and make sure that there are no lines showing in it. best of luck Debbie
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I have not tried the paper glaze over glass eyes--only acrylic eyes--so I cannot say for certain how that would work. The eyes turn out so reaistic when I use the paper glaze.
A roborn artist friend of mine said she has had the paper glaze come out of the bottle too forcefully and ended up with the entire eye coated with paper glaze. She ended up leaving it alone, and when the paper glaze dried on the eyes, the effect made the eyes more realistic.
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I always ask for the eyes to be separate when I order kits. I prefer to put them in after so nothing happens to them (ie: paint, thinner, etc). Then I use the paperglaze on the eye. Sometimes I do the entire eye, sometimes I just do a little puddle at the base of the eye. Both ways look realistic. I have done it with the Secrist Real Eyes but not with the hand blown German glass eyes.
Thanks so much to all of you for sharing your knowledge.
I seem to be hearing that Debra inserts the eyes and then applies the paper glaze but it sounds like Pat applies the glaze before inserting the eyes.
I assume this is a matter of preference.
Since the eyes I have ordered are acrylic, I think I will try the paper glaze when I get to that point. I don't think I have the skills yet to justify those expensive glass eyes--maybe in a year or so.
Oh sorry, I don't apply the glaze before inserting the eyes, I wait till I put them in. I just don't like my eyes pre-inserted in the kit when I get them (had to clerify there). I order my kits with the eyes left out, then I insert them myself. I wait till after the eye is glued in and sometimes after I put the lashes on.
I do know of several people who will use the glaze on the eye before inserting them. It seems to work well for them. Like you said... personal preference. :)
And the glass eyes I got were on sale for under $25 (if I remember correctly) but I only use them for certain dolls.
I am not sure what you can use to get rid of the glue and not harm your paint work. Pat or Linda (the moderators) will come on soon and hope they can help you. Did you mess on your baby or is it one that you want to strip the paint off and reborn.
Super glue, hmmmm... You could try freezing the eye and then try to do a quick flick of the glue. It works for gum in someones hair! Or you could try acetone to soften it up but you'd have to apply it right on the glue, not the eye itself as it may damage the eye. Or maybe some low odor thinner.
Other than that I'm not really sure. Let us know what you try and how it works...
OH, so it's the locktite eh? Then I would definately use some acetone really carefully on the glue only, just to soften it and then take a cotton tip and try to work it loose. Be careful not to get any on the eye or the reborn. They usually use some kind of acetone to get it off of skin when you stick yourself together, so it should work on the eye.
I have done the exact same thing... Locktite dripped on the eye. And I ended up using a drop of acetone. And it absolutely RUINED the eye.
I honestly don't think there is much you can do about it unless Pat's suggestion to freeze it works.
The other thing that might work is to apply Eileen's Paper Glaze over the eyeball. A friend of mine tried that when she noticed a scratch on the eye. She said it worked great and the scratch was not even noticeable.
If none of that works, I think the eye will need to be replaced.
P.S. I know the person applying the Loctite in the little Secrist video makes it look so easy to use, but I think it's even easier to drip, trip, or otherwise make a mess of things. I only use products now that will not ruin the eye if the worst happens-- tacky glue. I follow that with a little prayer that the eyelashes will stay put when the baby is adopted to a new home.
-- Edited by Play Days Dolls on Saturday 5th of September 2009 02:02:10 AM
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Linda Dreyer~ Forum Moderator Secrist Certified Newborning Teacher & Dealer Apple Valley DW Dealer Play Days Dolls & Collectibles PlayDaysDolls.com (Current Avatar: Erinfrom Secrist Dolls)
OOOHHH! I like that idea... if you can't get it off, cover it up with some baby tears! They are both shiny so it should work just fine. Apply your tears with a soft takalon brush (I usually use a cats tongue or also called a filbert brush) and just put a dab on the brush and spread lightly. Thanks for that handy-dandy idea Linda! That sounds much less involved and scary than the acetone :o