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sara zata · Guru

Secrists, PLEASE. Help for newbies.

wildauangel · Veteran Member

i agree i think the basics for that particular vinyl of that brand of doll should come with the dolls, not so much how to but what the doll can tollerate and all that jaz. i think it would be so helpfull

TinyEarthAngels · Guru

june hun your bake time is 8 mins each layer if you use matte varnish it willl be 10 mins as it take longer to dry ((hugs))

Buffington · Guru

Yes, many times it has been stated in forum that you bake the babies at 130 (or 265 F) for 8 minutes every time you bake a layer. And some have stated that they sometimes bake them 15 or 20 times before they are done. You also bake the internal wash and the matte varnish for 10 minutes. :)

-- Edited by Buffington at 23:54, 2008-09-26

sara zata · Guru

Pat B, Thanks for all the newbies and for myself, all of you put this in your favourites, that way you will have a reference. June M from Oz

gabriela · Member

Pat, i watched the secrist dvd and there they say to bake at 265 F for 8 minutes, ive been doing that way, with good results but im just in my second doll maybe im not doing right and the paint will fade months later or something....should i go to 365 f?
Thank you! :)

Buffington · Guru

OOPS!!! My Bad.... :(
I meant 265 F not 365. I did change it. Sorry, I didn't mean to freak you out!
NO! Do not go to 365. Your Genesis will be fine and if you go higher with the temp you will melt your baby! Stay at 265 F.
My mistake!!!

ADeLara1103 · Newbie

Okay, yes I'm a newbie and getting ready to start my 1st doll. I've read a lot all over the net and think I'm pretty prepared to start but I have a question already, lol. I've read that you can put your baby in the oven "too many times" and that can cause weak points and possibly tear. How many times is TOO many times in the oven, is there a limit on how many layers which means there would be a limit to oven visits as well?

Thanks for any help and look forwad to getting to know everyone. smile

Buffington · Guru

I can only truly speak to Secrist and Apple Valley vinyl here as it IS a Secrist forum, but their vinyl doesn't have any problems with going into the oven multiple times. I know some newborners that have applied over 20 coats of Genesis paints and that means over 20 oven visits with no problems.! I think some of what you are seeing on the web is people who use commercial "dolls" and "reborn" them.
I know for a fact that using GoofOff to remove paint from dolls is not only hazardous to your health, but it also gets into the vinyl and will leave a residue. It was not meant to be used on dolls, especially ones that are put in the oven!
This can cause a breakdown of the vinyl, vinyl/silicone, or silicone over time.

That's one nice thing about Secrist/AV vinyl, no silicone, and no paint to remove with harsh chemicals!

So at least if you use Secrist vinyl doll parts you shouldn't have to worry about how many times in the oven, weak points, or tearing.

I hope this answers your questions as far as Secrist/AV vinyl parts/kits. If you are using other manufacturers dolls I suggest you contact them directly (not the sellers as they won't know for sure).

ADeLara1103 · Newbie

Yes ma'am, that helped a great deal. I bought Secrist because it's the one that received the most praise from folks who bought them and compared them to others so I must be headed in the right direction. biggrin It's good to know that I can apply many layers without the worry.

Thanks so much!

Buffington · Guru

Glad I can be of service :)
BTW... I love your pumpkin avatar!