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I just bought some white mohair. Can someone tell me what is used to dye mohair? Thanks.

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Hello notalent, I think in the artist show case, I posted a pic of a Hannah which wasn,t the right colour for the lady I was making her for . I,d rooted the head and then I dye,d it uasing a permanent human hair colour and a little baby comb, after I mixed it, I sqeezed9(spell check) along the comb and spread it evenly in the mohair , then I did my own. I didn,t want to part with the now Jack after he looked like his mother. Mohair is a naturel fiber, like human hair.weirdfaceJune M from Oz.

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wow june it really worked??

i tried dying a pale blonde to a light/mid brown with normal hair dye -- it went a funny dishwater purple.

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I missed your answer on the dye job, but yes it does realy work. and doing it after to doll has been rooted was realy easy, though I was worried sick that it would dye the vynal.weirdfaceJune M

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I just bought a pound of white mohair and am thinking about dyeing it. This is what I found when I googled "how to dye mohair". Sounds like a lot of work! I am gonna try June's way on some of it first, because if that works I don't want to do it the hard way. This is from a site called mohairwig.


Washing and dyeing mohair

 Washing the mohair

The first part making sure your fiber is really clean is the most important. Any lanolin left on your mohair will oxidize over time leaving the mohair to develop a stiff sticky feeling. Too much lanolin will cause dye to rinse off in hot water or rub off your hands as you work with it as the lanolin is melted. Lanolin contains a wax and requires very hot water and lots of PH neutral soap to remove it ,

( If you use laundry soap be sure to keep the temperature below 140 or add white vinegar to prevent alkaline conditions that damage mohair, alkaline conditions combined with heat cause mohair to become dry and brittle on the tips of the locks)

I recommend synthropol concentrate ( a detergent with out all the additives)1 tsp or Dawn 1/8 cup to 8-16 oz mohair, both are neutral ph . .I repeat the soap part several times. Then do the same with the rinse. Laundry soap can be used but keep the temperature below 135-140 as it will often make the water ph 8 or higher . I  avoid using ammonia and dish washer type cleaners they are very ,very, alkaline and can easily make the fiber feel harsh at the tips.

         I wash in small lots of  4 -16 oz and use up to 10 changes of almost boiling water when I am using a neutral detergent ( water must be above 130 to dissolve lanolin )and a set of plastic baskets that allow the dirty water to drain out quickly.( I can just lift them out of the hot water and not disturb the curls)  Never let the fiber cool in the dirty water it causes the grease and wax to be redeposited on the fiber.    If you have no plastic baskets I recommend you use a net delicates bag or an onion sack  , this allows you to remove and drain while still hot  with out felting.

Smaller batches are easier to get clean . Remember in hot weather and with time, lanolin oxidizes and is harder to remove . Solvents remove this oxidized wax and do not damage the  mohair , a small amount of turpentine , mineral spirits or orange oil solvent ( my favorite to use) added to a hot soapy soak will loosen the waxes from the hair and leave a very silky feel to the fiber .( be sure to use good ventilation ) the petroleum based solvents will need a few extra washes and an airing to get rid of the smell. Which is why I use the orange solvent It smells wonderful and is made from citrus peel oil.     I love the orange cleaner to get rid of the  heavy unpleasant scent of buck and ram fleeces as well as the occasional fleeces that come in smelling of cigarette smoke . 

Never use Chlorine bleach on mohair , it damages the hair and leaves it very harsh and too much will dissolve hair .  ( drop a small lock into a cup with a bit of bleach and check it in a few hours !)

The oxygen bleaches that have no chlorine can be used to lighten stains


    Dying Mohair              

 If you can cook you can dye, ok if you can boil eggs you can dye. It is just a matter of one step at a time.   Uneven dye jobs  with this dye blend  are almost always caused by  one of the steps being omitted. Or a metal that reacts with the dye . 

 NOTE   Acid dyes can react badly with iron and aluminum  , pots should be stainless steel or enamel with no chips , and used only for your dyeing ( do not share dye pots with cooking)  , utensils and strainers used in the dye pot also must be non reactive , use stainless plastic or wood  , if you are getting off tones especially greens it can almost always be traced back to aluminum or steel in the dye bath .  

  things to check include  is the stainless worn      many stainless steel is not full thickness , tell tale signs are black spots or rust in the pan .

Dark enamel  like the common black spatter ware often develop chips and cracks that are hard to see but can ruin a dye job . and the modern ones have an extremely thin layer of enamel that does not hold up well.

            

         Wash wool / Mohair   really well, lanolin acts like a resist prevents the dye from setting  check for tangles and knots to prevent tie dye effects. Dye can not penetrate knots. Even clean wool / Mohair   should soak for 30 min in very hot soapy water before dying  the fiber . when the water is drained if it looks or smell dirty  I recommend rinsing and repeating the hot soak.

   Remember the mohair must have lots of room to float in the pot  crowding will prevent the dye from setting evenly.  The wig dyes are tested to give the correct color at ¼ tsp dye  per 1 oz mohair   unless marked otherwise, though  most of the blondes are also very pretty half strength . colors can be mixed to make your own blends . 

 Bring water & a drop or two of  liquid detergent and correct amount of dye to a boil,  ( Do not sniff or taste dye! All powders are an irritant to the lungs . this dye is chrome and cadmium free but still  It is not good for you to inhale ,and you should avoid breathing all powders even kool aid or baby powder can be an irritant)

I allow the dye bath to boil a few minutes to be sure the dye is dissolved  I add a few drops of dawn or synthrapol and for the dark colors add  1/8 tsp Of the sodium acetate that comes with the dark colors  to the pot  add  ¼ teaspoon if you are dying more than 4-6 oz at a time, It acts as a buffer allowing the dye to set more evenly.. I bring this to a simmer then Turn heat to medium. Add fiber and keep just below or at, a low simmer for ¼ -½ hour, (this step gives a more even result) Boiling  will tangle the fiber causing the dye to set unevenly, where it is wrapped you can get a light or white spot. Add vinegar slowly using about  5 to 8 oz  per lb of fiber or a bit less for smaller batches ( always diluted for best results ) and keep just below simmer while stirring gently occasionally ¼ -½ hour, I usually aim for the water around 180 so the fiber is submerged.

A candy thermometer is very helpful

For the most even dye job the Ph should be lowered with the acid ( vinegar ) slowly. I add a bit of the acid then wait and add a bit more over the half hour  to get even results Allow to cool, the different colors that make up the dye strike at different temperatures, never remove the fiber while the water is still hot , allow it to cool first.  Rinse in warm then hot water. Then I squirt on a bit of hair conditioner and mix in . Give one more rinse. Drain, I lay the wet fiber on a towel or stack of newspaper to pull the extra water away.

 Allow to dry before separating the locks  If you try to separate the locks while wet they can tangle.

Use good light  to sort the locks . remember the best results will come from combing and using the mohair in the same direction it grew . you always want the cuticle of the hair for a doll wig or rooting going down .  rooting from the center of the lock or the bottom results in a doll that will appear frizzy and the hair can felt or mat with handling . making the doll look very messy.

 

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Here is another idea to dye mohair.

For a single smooth solid shade, you should use a relatively large amount of water in a cooking pot, enough that your mohair fabric can move freely as you stir it in the dyebath. For more interesting variegated colors, you can stuff the fabric into quart-sized glass jars, adding the dye ingredients and a smaller amount of water to each jar with the fabric, and place these into a pot of water which you maintain at the desired temperature level. Use a thermometer to make sure your water is at the correct temperature for dyeing. If you use dyes directly in a cooking pot, do not use it again for food, ever, unless the dye you choose to use is food coloring, which is safe for use in food preparation utensils. Food coloring, such as that found in unsweetened artificially flavored drink mix powder, works surprisingly well as a dye for mohair, but commercial acid dyes will work even better.

If the fur of the mohair clumps up into separate locks when it is wet with dye, you will need to physically open the clumps so that the dye can penetrate evenly, as otherwise you will obtain areas that are less intensely dyed, or entirely undyed. Be sure to wear gloves when contacting the dye. You do not want to get dye onto your hands unnecessarily.

The most washfast (resistant to fading when laundered) dyes for mohair include the Remazol fiber reactive dyes, the reactive and metal complex dyes in the Lanaset range of dyes, and other metal complex dyes (also known as premetalized or premetallised dyes). You can use Jacquard Acid dyes, ProChem's Washfast Acid Dyes, Lanaset dyes from ProChem in the US or KraftKolour in Australia, or any other sort of acid dye. You can also use an all-purpose dye, such as Rit dye or Tintex Hot Water Dye, but these will be less resistant to fading when washed. See my page of "Sources for Dyeing Supplies Around the World", for good companies from which to order dyes intended for use on wool and mohair. Follow the manufacturer's instructions for dyeing wool, except for using a lower temperature for your dyebath. You will need to use a mild acid as a helper chemical for your dye, such as Albegal SET for Lanaset dyes (sold by the same companies that sell the Lanaset dyes), or citric acid or ordinary white vinegar for other acid dyes (including food coloring).

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Nightngale, thats another tip we should put in our favourites, so we don't have to go searching for them. Your a bit like me, cant tell something in shorthand. I know salt and viniger sets dyes, wether it is tea, coffee, or the shop type dyes.weirdfaceJune M from Oz.

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whooooa that sounds like way to much work! I can appreciate those that do that for sure!

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oh my... i really appreciate the suppliers i use now, the work that goes in.... makes the ones that sell at the higher end of the market actually seem very worth it when you realise how much work and effort goes into the colouring, conditioning and brushing - which most high end sellers have done.

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I asked this question of dying mohair when I spoke to a friend who is an artist that uses textiles as her medium I am her hairdresser and we decided that because mohair is a protein and so is our hair we could not see why it would not work to use hair colour but you would have to use the same principles of colour when chosing the type to use and the colour. My thoughts as I have not done it yet would be along the lines of junes idea and root the head first then if you wanted to be very careful i woul be using some barrier cream around the edges of the face turning the baby up side down wrapping the rest of the head in cling film for protection then for a gentle option I would start with a semi permanent color one that you don't mix to bottles if you aren't happy with the first application you repeat the process with the same colour and if you keep the air out of the product once you have opened it it will keep so you could even do test strands applying with a comb is a great idea and stick to the natural shades of colour to start with then you could mix a little of a warmer tont to the next application. When chosing to use a permanent colour never go to dark to start with and do not try to lighten I think it would get to complicated if you have already rooted stick to more natural colours then you don't have heaps of reflect to deal with and follow the recomended times and most impotantly only mix up a small amount and do a test clump of hair that is not attached to the doll before you colour and dry this lock of hair off first to see the true colour after it has processed. This is just my opinion and how I have been thinking I would go about it I have not tried it yet. I would not try to lighten the mohair because you don't know what it has been dyed with previously and lightening hair colours have a higher strenght of peroxide and may damage the mohair always shampoo gently after and condition.THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION AND I HAVE BEEN THINKING THIS IS HOW I WOULD TRY IT WHEN I DO>

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P>S I forgot to mention to apply with a comb to keep the color of the babies heas so it does not stain.

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