I'm really disappointed that with the new forum all the old posts are lost. I've just started on my first sculpt attempt -- using the medium secrist sculpting form.
I never really posted much here on any of the forums but the old posts would really have come in useful as I begin yet another venture in the reborning/newborn world.
Its sad that with updating the forums such a wealth of information has been lost. If anyone has or knows of some links regarding reborn sculpting techniques, tips and tricks it would be greatly appreciated.
Still Ill post some photos depending on how I go. I'm using super sculpey, and while this will be the first baby, I have previous knowledge and experience using polymer clays and in sculpture. Though I do not expect, by any stretch of the imagination that trying to capture the life, realism and innocence of a newborn infant will be anything less than a challenge. But an exciting challenge.
ok so after a full day of sculpting i have...... [drum roll please].... a nose!!!!!
OMG - this is not an easy task at all, even with the sculpting form... i think i covered the form and then pulled the sculpy off again about 5 times over - and that was just the cover layers before you even begin to add detail and actully begin sculpting!!!
I'm having fun though and thats what counts most.
the plan is to make a sleeping bub... not a "just born" newborn, but one maybe 3weeks old or so... well thats the "plan" what eventuates could be something very different... and perhapse not even human!!!
If anyone is interested in my grand achievment of a NOSE -- here are a few pics remember this is my first venture in sculpting a baby, so its nothing fantastic!!
Naomi, that's incredible for your first attempt. That nose is as perfect as it gets. Good for you! Can't wait to see what the finished product will look like.
Aw your all so very kind. My baby is now baking in the oven. Here's the almost finished product....
i smoothed it over more after taking these pics before putting in the oven -- i figuer the remaining bumps and lumps I'll gently sand-buff out.
i think maybe i left the bottom lip too big - i wanted to make it look like it was maybe quivering - lip dropping getting ready to cry. Its hard to tell because the sculpts always look different ones painted all up... Honest feedback one what i could work on next time will be appreciated, while also rembering this is my first ever attempt. Maybe oneday i could have a kit available ... its a big dream i know, but give me 6 or so months of practise and it could be possible... maybe
wow youve done a fantastic job! i think your right though wont be able to tell if the lip looks like its quivering until youve painted it I cant wait to see it painted now! hehehe
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Below is the sculpt painted - painting the sculpey is very different to a vinyl kit, and its probably still a bit too pail but you get the idea. Also no eyelashes or hair.
You'll probably be horrified but i just smashed it all to pieces!!! LOL. Practise makes perfect right? I'm about to start over, i only have the one sculpting form so yeah. I have a photo record of my first try and now i'll see if i can improve on it.
the lips were too pronounced so i need to work more on that, and i need to get more depth above the cheek line. Here goes attempt #2.
Your first sculpt was great! When I get tired of newborning and reborning I will try sculpting. I think I'm going to have to use armature. My attempts at freeform have all looked like old men. I also like the fact that if I'm not happy I can just smash it and start from scratch!
I liked the nose on my first try better than the nose on this one - this one is too "sharp" i think. Its not perfect, its only my second try... she's kinda "pixie" looking rather than "baby" i think.
only the one photo link, but its a 9 picture medley - makes it quick and easy to have a look....
You made a lovely baby sculpt - and smashed her? Gosh. Well, I HAVE destroyed many apainting because I was not satisfiied with it - but such a lovely baby destroyed. I think I'm gong to cry.
My best friend did that to "MY" very first sculpt! I mean she took it and smashed in right in her hand!!! BAM OUCH!!!! And then she said: "practice, practice, practice, if you can do that 3 more times you got it!" :o
Yes, she is still my friend but I didn't sculpt for many years after that, and now I only let her see the ones that have been baked! hehehe
My first baby sculpted in porcelain clay looks like a bad cartoon character. Body looks ok but the hands look like Fred Flintstone's. Face kinda looks like Edward G Robinson (the actor) and Howdy Doody (a puppet). So at least yours is better. I did keep my first.
Of course now I could send him to the "Smashing Lullabye's" nursery to be.... umm... looked after? hehehe
Of course my friend is also a sculptor, she sculpts with handmade paper. She makes the most amazing realistic flowers you have ever seen. Then if she doesn't like what she made, she smashes it and tears it to peices!! Guess there's some similarities eh? :0
oh goodness, thats almost a little too cruel of your friend and can understand why it put you off trying again for sometime... i mean i appreciate blunt honesty, but that she shashed your little one on you in, front of your faces is... HARSH!! She could have approched it with a little more tact and just told you to "practise practise practise"
Ouch!!!
I'm glad your friendship survived it though.
It's nice to think though that she'll always be honest with you, and the babies she complements must be really high praise as she's obviously not someone to give lip-servise to save your feelings...
Yes, I'm glad she's still my friend too! 15 years is a lot to throw away. She can be a very temperamental artist but as you said: "...the babies she complements must be really high praise..." and she is very honest with me (no more smashing baby heads!). She tells me with tact and she knows that I will accept her "critique" with grace as she gets me to "step away" and look at them from a buyers point of view.
I use a "would I buy that for me?" eye when I look at my work. I know an aweful lot of people that have friends and relatives that would never give them an honest opinion for fear of hurting the artists feelings. And who knows whether or not the artist can take constructive criticism. Some do some don't. This is why (IMHO) there are some babies for sale that people think are fabulous and they are not. Then they wonder: "why isn't my baby selling? Why did I only get $$ for it?" They don't really know because no one will tell them. But you ALWAYS, ALWAYS have to be tactful as it could be devistating to someone who worked so hard on that baby.
It can also be hard to draw the line between personal taste and something that truly isn't quality work. My dad used to tell me: The difference between a good photographer and a bad photographer is the good photographer knows which photos to throw away. I think that is so true. I knew when I started this I wouldn't even attempt to sell a baby unless it reached a certain level of quality. I haven't reached that yet. I have sold one although it wasn't intentional. A co-worker who is a doll collector bought one "on the spot."
yes i know what you mean about the fear of hurting others feelings... but i think it gets to a point where everyone just starts lying and no one will ever reach for greater heights when those around them are just paying lip servise....
For me personally though this just becomes even more complecated as i assume people never say what they really think and as such i rarely trsut a complement. Which is really terrible.
Like you said (buffington) - i also look at my work with a "would i want to buy that?" eye, regardless of the hours of work, the main question remains for me "is it pleasing to the eye, and is it really worth hundreds of dollars" if i wouldn't buy it myself, i'd hardly think anyone else might.
I guess thats where i'm at regarding my sculpting attempts thus far. I think "if this were a kit would i want to reborn it"?? the answer is a resounding NO, hence the hammer has come out to "play".
I was happier with my third attempt and if it hadn't cracked when cooking i would have probably kept him, but i still wouldn't have wanted him as a kit.
I use to think you have to be good to get your sculpt made as a kit... after researching the matter the truth is you just need to have a couple of thousand dollars to invest and make contact with a manifactuer in hong-kong/china etc.
There have been times when i have looked at some kits and thought "oh my, how did this ever get produced?" but well, now i know. So unless people feel able to answer honestly when a person askes "do you think this would make a good kit" we're really just setting up the person for failure. If we say "yes" but really think "no", and because of all the kind, save the persons feelings "yes's" someone might actually produce a sculpt and then end up in a financial hole b/c the kit just wont sell.
i mean yeah, there are ways to say it, and maybe you really need to know a person to be blunt with them over their creations... but i know that i personally would prefer the honest truth than i would lip servise.
Blah blah... don't know how i ended up off on this point... i'll jump off my soap box now *giggles*
Naomi, those were very remarkable babies! Have you finally done one that you kept? Would love to see piccies! Mine looked like little old people with baby bodies! lol
Namoi, I,m sure I commented on your new sculpt, unless it has been put some where else, but anyway ,I thought you did a very nice piece of work and as you say, we have to be truthfull. I was very happy with my first and a lot of people wanted to buy the greenware, but because she was a home made mold ,we didn,t. Make her up and dress her and send her to a show, where they have competitions and you will get comments on a critiquesheet, that way you will know where you can improve. Luv. June M from Oz